Not knowing how to use a blender and spilling crap all over my 1930s stove and wood floors = ass kicking.

eddie - not as retarded as someone else who was asleep in my back yard. I left the house with about 10 people in it and went to the Cat. When I returned there was just one person left and he was asleep in the back yard, probably in some dog poop.

“They’ve come to dance to familiar-sounding rock music. No thumping bass lines, no skittering techno beats.”

Yep. That’s what I loved about these nights. IMO they’ve changed to attract that larger crowd.

And sadly we need a new Metro. The Cat with its all ages policy tends to draw people on DJ nights not for the music, but for the all ages policy. The old Metro (and the Cat, even, for many years of these DJs) drew people who were into the music for the music, not -just- to dance.

The crowd that first populated Metro (and the Cat) for the music is still out there, but a lot (LOT) of them don’t come because the musical forumlas have changed.

“The old Metro (and the Cat, even, for many years of these DJs) drew people who were into the music for the music, not -just- to dance.”

… because dancing is ruinz Ummerica? And can dance widout likes muzik? Like funny zombie? I am baffled by this comment. Or maybe Dakota’s comment really did give me a mild stroke.

sean - what in the fuck are you talking about? How do you get that from anything I’ve said?

Sean, please shut the fuck up.

My statement that people who once floced to these nights as they were originally envisioned, but don’t come to them now because their musical formatting has changed is retarded and elitist? How so? You aren’t making any sense at all.

If you start a night called “Sailing” and you play yacht rock and you promote it as yacht rock and people come to it because you play yacht rock, but then you decide that if you added some 70’s disco then you could get those people to come, so some do, then you throw in some 80s electronica to get more people are you really going to be surprised if the original yacht rock crowd that came for the music don’t show up anymore?

I know music changes and tastes change. Duh. But if you decide that you suddenly want to turn Sailing into Baltimore House then you can’t complain when your crowd disappears. Why not start Pigtown instead and either let Sailing die, or keep it at its original forumula?

Michael, i agree but also you DO have to take the whole age issue into consideration.
People who flocked to Bliss 9 years a go may be married with babies and babysitters now.
Or mortgages.
Or whatever.
Those people, naturally, don’t go out as much.
Same thing is going to happen in 9 years to those kids that go to Nouveau Riche or shorts today.
Natural progression of things.
As I said in the first paragraph-9 years is a long time to do anything.

Svet - I’m not specifically targeting Bliss. There are a LOT of nights that change their format rather than just kill the night off and start anew - if you’re a good DJ known for throwing a party then you shouldn’t have to use name of the event for name recognition to keep a crowd, you should be able to start a new night on your DJ name alone - and most of these guys do.

But yes, people get older and don’t come out for many reasons, but they also don’t come out for reasons I’ve stated above. Many are much more snobbish than am I.

If I am going to anything marketed “indie” for example, I should hear any fucking Madonna. Likewise if I attend “Birt-Pop” then playing Iggy Pop just doesn’t fly in my book. I go to hear British popular music that I haven’t heard before, or that I have and enjoy.

Likewise I promise never to show up at a house specific event and pester the DJ to play Love and Rockets. Pinky swear.

sean - that’s where we’re different. I’d change the event name itself so to preserve the memory of the original. That’s just me talking though. Later on you could re-create it for special occassions and bring out the people that know and love the forumla. Follow the Bowie example…

sean - you kill it before it’s over. It’s marketing.

As Def Leppard said: “it’s better to burn out, than fade away”

Will - it’s marketing. Look how many people are now paying attention to and participating in your Bliss thread. You’ve got more buzz. You’re welcome.

Will - you take shit way too seriously and get snippy about it. We’ve had this conversation way too many times in person. You have successful parties all over the city but it doesn’t mean that they are perfect parties. I also specifically stated I wasn’t targeting Bliss because, hey, I still go even if I much prefer the music you used to play because I felt that took a lot more courage and a lot more effort to seek out new and exciting indie bands than it does playing the same crap I can hear at many other places - that’s why I loved Bliss and that’s why a lot of people loved Bliss and that’s why a lot of people don’t come to Bliss anymore - because they can hear the same stuff elsewhere if they cared to. Fuck I watch the crowd at Bliss and many (MANY) of them are just underagers there because they can get in. If that’s what you want to cater to to keep the click numbers up then that’s your choice, but I also notice that people in this city that I know love the atypical music that you used to offer us on a silver plate simply do not come and it’s for every reason that I am outlining.

Used to it was running up to ask you what new song that was you were dropping. Now it’s oh, it’s some hip-hop-esque remix. Big Whoop.

Hell the comment I heard that describes it best (you can PM me for the source) this very weekend was “Wow, I remember when Bliss was the exact opposite of this.”

But it’s your night. People have opinions on it. I have opinions on it. You can ignore them if you wish or you can take healthy criticism because you know that I at least will make the same case with you in person, and have, and am not afraid to openly criticize it (and still attend) unlike others who will just go off and give up.

But fuck dude, you’ve been a DJ force in this city for quite some time - a little criticism isn’t going to change that. If you think that criticizing your new tastes in events and music means that I don’t like you as a friend well that’s just ridiculous.

Fitsum, you’re wrong. It’s on the 1983 Rock of Ages track off of Pyromania.

Dakota - and manipulating the staircase trying to capture a lesbian love-in doesn’t make you a decent photographer either. it does make it kind of creepy. How many shots were taken up there? A lot more than made it here that’s for sure.

I see everything.

But nice way to be a dick. I’m just a lot better at it than you are. I’ve had more practice.

Man, are those topsiders making a strong comeback or what?
Still hate em.

Pedro, that’s hilarious.

I’d be willing to put up with Toto if you have a yacht on which to host it.

On ocassion I drop in to hear DJ DK mix. That man is a fucking genius.

Hate most of his music though.