disclaimer: Wu Tang wouldn’t allow photographers.
A friend and I went to Baltimore Wed to see Wu Tang.
She is reading Richard Jensen’s book “Getting Off: Pornography and the End of Masculinity,” which I guess is a kind of critique of pornography as inherently misogynistic and harmful to all genders.
After a few pleasantries through her thinly veiled rage, we got to discussing it as we waited for the train. Does the degradation sometimes depicted in porn cause people to recreate the same outside the bedroom, and does it hurt individuals and/or society?
Or does the smut stay on the screen, potentially in poor taste, but ultimately harmless? Not being a regular consumer of porn, I’m not sure of my opinion, but I guess I’d more likely align myself with the “I don’t care what you watch or do as long as you’re not hurting anyone (or have a safe word)” camp.
As we rode north, ear buds split between our heads, listening to 36 Chambers, I got to thinking (…are we all just sluts? ha. kidding), couldn’t it be possible that pornos are just movies? And why do we watch movies: to escape our personal realities, to try to experience someone else’s experiences, to live a fantasy for 90 minutes. The same applies with music, as anyone who appreciates a good soundtrack can attest; it paints a picture of something you may or may not ever experience in “real life” and from which you can move in and out, relatively unchanged.
So does it really hurt anyone if a movie or song is offensive?
Throughout the evening, my friend and I pursued this question, applying it to Hip Hop. Like movies (and porn) and other types of music, hip hop is at least a medium, at best an art form, where the musician has license to describe in their lyrics and style any scenario they can imagine. And what is the product? A song. Or track or hook or whatever you want to call it. It’s a piece of noise, and no matter what the intentions of the artist, be they well or ill, its up to the listener to interpret.
If, for example, I listen to a song depicting fervid intent to “smack my bitch up,” I may or may not feel any compulsion whatsoever to in fact beat my girlfriend. This may be the corduroy sport coat speaking, but I believe exposure to new information (“he’s smacking his bitch up”) does not necessarily cause a change in behavior (“therefore I’m going to smack my bitch up”). The likelihood that I’m going to beat my girlfriend is determined by a much more complicated series of relationships between many more significant variables unexplored here that have nothing to do with a song I listened to.
As well, I find fault with a similar argument some take in saying that to appreciate the true meaning of a movie, porno, song, etc. one has to lay claim to a certain level of authenticity signified by common experience between artist and consumer. By this logic, for example, to truly appreciate Crime and Punishment, I would have to know what it feels like to live in poverty in an economically segregated 19th century Russia. I think most would agree that that’s untrue; we consume (entertainment) media to expand upon our own realities and to experience new ones, and if the book, or movie, or song is any good, that’s what we get.
Nowhere are these dynamics so poignantly apparent as in Hip Hop, as was suggested in previous comments about DJ Khaled’s supposed in-authenticity and negative influence on kids’ behaviors. (To which I say, a bamma, he may be; a killer of children? I don’t think so).
To explore further, in the spirit of BYT’s affinity for lists, I thought about putting together the
“Top 10 Uncomfortable Moments in Hip Hop for a White, Jewish Girl from Kansas” list, a la:
10. Run by Ghostface Killah/Jadakiss – “RUN! If you sell drugs in a school zone. RUN! If you gettin’ chased with no shoes on…”
9. Cave Bitch by Ice Cube – “You can’t get mine, ho, I’d rather fuck an albino. At least I know she be comin from the Nubian, not the Ku Klux Clan that you be in…”
8. I’m an African by Dead Prez – “I’m an African! I’m an African! Ugh, an’ I know what’s happenin’!” etc, etc, etc.
Awk-ward.
But alas I do want to actually say a few words about Wu Tang.
So aaaaaaanyway, I saw Wu Tang at Rams Head in Baltimore, and it was the bomb.
For reals.
From the moment the show started, there were roughly 1000 people on stage. Wu’s friends, family, girls, kids all stood at the back and to the sides like they were watching the game at a house party. They all came out looking ready to scale Everest in layer upon layer of puffy vest, denim coat, hoodie, Wu Tang tshirt, beater, dew rag, Yankees cap, etc. only to theatrically peal items off one by one throughout the night. And, consistently, the stage seemed to be waging a slow burn from the plumes of smoke wafting up to the rafters.
At the obligatory point in the show where they honored ODB, Method goes “Wu Tang doesn’t do moments of silence” and had the whole place sing along to “Oh baby I like it raaaawww” and “Hey, Dirty, baby I got ya money.”
Ghostface poured out his drink about 50 times. Like, we get it, for the homies.
A lot has been said about the new album being an unwelcome change in direction (i.e. Rza! Has! Gone! Insane!), so I won’t belabor the point. On the first few listens, I just thought it was kind of boring, but I’ll try again. They did a lot of solid classics, so the show was still wild. It’s hard not to get hyped; there are 9 rappers, all going steady over bared down beats, performing like Baltimore is their second Shaolin, and she’s welcoming her adopted sons to her gritty bosom.
No one got shot, no one got assaulted, and aside from a slight shudder at Method’s announcement that “ODB loved pussy!” I was in heaven.
A friend who I’d invited who couldn’t come wished me a good time getting a 40 poured on my head. Luckily I wasn’t in the first couple rows or else I would’ve enjoyed Method Man spraying water everywhere, stomping on heads, demanding “hold me up!” as he stood on hands and rapped from the middle of the swarm, and otherwise jumping into the crowd on every other song like the ball pit at chuck e cheese. I guess that would’ve been pretty awesome too.

I was at that show, and I was once again reminded of how much more showmanship Method Man has than the rest of the Clan combined. He even managed to get the crowd back on his side after that horrible opening DJ had my whole section of the crowd about to walk out before the Wu even took the stage.
January 11, 2008 at 2:25 pm“no one got assaulted”
…except for…that guy who got assaulted. but then method man told us to put our wu signs up, so it was alllll good!
Also, please credit me for that graphic. Even though I didn’t make it.
Also, in my mind, the “So does it really hurt anyone if a movie or song is offensive? [does anyone actually die/get raped/whatever]” question is a common simplification of attempts to understand social processes that can rarely, if ever, be reduced to a question of cause and effect. It’s not about proving necessary or sufficient conditions. Rather, I think the point is to examine the significance and impact of what a society produces as art or entertainment and, in turn, how consumption of said art or entertainment molds social norms and patterns. You know, if you’re in to that kind of thing.
Of course I be listening to smack my bitch up all the time without smacking my bitch up (except for that one time I smacked you up when I was drunk, Abby, still so sorry about that!).
And of course, I shudder to think what will become of this comment thread. I think I will not check back…
January 11, 2008 at 3:03 pmps. please finish that top 10 list, as it is so, so awesome.
January 11, 2008 at 3:10 pmSo how long past the time they were supposed to go on stage did they actually show up on stage?
Because you know, they’re never on time…but of course, no one fucks with them either.
January 11, 2008 at 3:56 pmAbby
Have you ever read Big Brother skateboard magazine? Your writing style reminds me of Chris Pontius and Earl Parker.
January 11, 2008 at 4:09 pmthis article depicts the author’s ignorance towards the genre of hip-hop and for this particular performance. as a white woman, scholar of african american studies, and an avid consumer of hip-hop i disagree with this as a whole.
the “does violent music cause one to be violent?” point will probably never be solved, but i follow the belief that if you don’t want to hear it, don’t listen. if hip-hop makes you uncomfortable as a white woman, why go to the show? i have been to numerous rap joints, and have always experienced more camaraderie than violence. i’ve been on stage with ghostface and it was a great time. basically i’m just tired of people grinding the point to the ground that hip-hop is offensive. and this piece offends me more than any hip-hop song ever has.
p.s. it’s “do-rag”
January 11, 2008 at 5:54 pmPS
DJ Khaled is Palestinian. How much more authentic do you need to be? That’s the ultimate ghetto pass.
that graphic explains everything. long live the venn diagram!!
January 12, 2008 at 8:06 ammary: that guy was asking for it. what was the cute Sway-lookalike security man supposed to do. hold his drink while the dude climbed on stage? also, you a bams. remind me to punch you in the face sometime.
patrick: if by “skateboard magazine” you mean “US weekly,” then yes, its been a huge influence on me.
laura: i’m not sure if my arguments were unclear or if you just didn’t read the article. i was trying to counter the thesis that hip hop is all negative and harmful and that one can’t create or appreciate this type of music if they don’t embody some level of authenticity. on the other hand, i do acknowledge that there are problematic moments, hence the list of awkwardness, but these don’t discredit the entire genre nor make me want to stop listening. also, the show was sick and i had a great time and said so at several points above. so…. ?
January 12, 2008 at 2:40 pmIs this article a joke?
January 12, 2008 at 2:45 pmYea definately, “white jewish girl from kansas” is the best part! this jawn is mad funny my dude! I don’t think this chick abby really exists…
January 12, 2008 at 2:50 pmno she really exists…she’s mad smart and should write about hip hop more often
January 12, 2008 at 2:59 pmIs this chick serious?
January 12, 2008 at 3:15 pmIs that a rhetorical question?
Don’t answer that.
“Switch up–
Change my pitch up!”
i love the wu; thanks for this article.
i definitely am conflicted being a feminist who likes hip-hop and - to be fair - other forms of entertainment that end up, here and there, as offensive to my gender. i agree with Mary re: “Also, in my mind, the ‘So does it really hurt anyone if a movie or song is offensive? [does anyone actually die/get raped/whatever]‘ question is a common simplification of attempts to understand social processes that can rarely, if ever, be reduced to a question of cause and effect…”
word. big word. social construction goes way, way beyond just this chicken/egg question. further, i also agree with the author that it’s unfair to dismiss an entire genre due to the misogyny of some artists/lyrics - so, let’s take the two together, and simply continue to critique culture. think about shit like this. think about the fact that ok, people may not run right out and literally do what the lyrics say, but that these lyrics are both a reflection of AND an influence on society. that’s what’s up. just because no direct action is taken as a result of listening/watching/whatevs does not mean that a certain piece of pop culture can’t be offensive or harmful. the web of oppression has both thick and thin strands, you know? we live in a patriarchy; hence, misogyny enters into just about every sphere, hip-hop no more or less than any other. you just have to decide what you’re going to do about it.
January 14, 2008 at 9:55 amKim - things can only be offensive to you as a person, things cannot be offensive to something like “gender”
Regardless, Hip Hop blows.
January 15, 2008 at 5:01 pmI think one liners like “Hip Hop blow” blows. That’s like being German and saying “America Blows” Clearly only a simplistic mind would make such a simplistic statement. To his credit, though, some hip hop does blow but there is TONS of hip hop genius that has changed the landscape of music - across many genre’s.
February 3, 2008 at 12:08 pm


LOL “Awkward!!”
January 11, 2008 at 1:37 pm