As a resident of the DC metro area for the past decade, I consider myself pretty savvy when it comes to homeless etiquette. For years I’ve basically just ignored them based on the old adage that if you give them money they will use it for drugs or alcohol. Ok, that’s not entirely true, once I offered a lady my lunch and she turned it down. Apparently she really needed the cash. I’ve also been told that once you give anything to a homeless person, they will bother you for the rest of your life. My experience though, hasn’t really been about homeless pestering- more about homeless preference.
One morning, I was entering my local McDonald’s to purchase a nutritious breakfast before starting my workday. A “domestically challenged” man stopped me and asked if I could please get him some food, no money, just food. I was feeling very cheerful and generous, kind of like Oprah, so I agreed to get him some food. Maybe it was the Prozac, but as he recited his order I thought, “I’m going to make this guy’s day and get him an entire McDonald’s meal, not just a sandwich.” As I walked in the door to get his Egg McMuffin he called out “one more thing, a large orange juice!” At first I chuckled to myself. Who the hell did this guy think he was? Then I became kind of irritated because that basically ruined my entire meal surprise which was going to include either OJ or coffee. I figured coffee because movies and TV have led me to believe that coffee would be the drink of choice here, however it was hot out so maybe he would have preferred OJ. Good thing he told me his preference so I didn’t waste a coffee on him.
In the end, he seemed really grateful for this delicious imitation egg sandwich, but he didn’t seem to care about the hash browns I so kindly included in his order. I’m pretty sure he said “God Bless” so at least now I have that going for me when I get to the pearly gates.
After this encounter I was talking to some friends at work about it, and many shared similar stories. For example my friend John was walking to CVS when a homeless man asked him for some water. Not just any water though- raspberry flavored water. John, being the nice guy that he is thought, “just because this guy is homeless doesn’t mean he should not have a choice.” So, John went in bought a liter of the CVS brand raspberry flavored water and handed it over to the man in need. The man looked down with disdain at the liter of flavored water and said “this isn’t the right brand.”
In sharing my story, I’ve learned that many people in DC have had this same experience. So, I guess the point is that just because it seems that the homeless are desperate and don’t have any particular taste or preference (or sense of entitlement) for food, hydration, or cigarette brand, in DC this is highly untrue. Just stop by the McDonald’s on M Street in NW where a woman will kindly call out her order for the day should you be feeling generous.
this article couldn’t be more condescending- you’ve really outdone yourself. how harrowing it must be to have all of that priviledge when that yucky looking man asks you for something!
October 6, 2008 at 2:28 pmAccording to the Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments, homelessness in the DC area rose in 2005 for the fourth straight year. It is estimated that there are more than 14,000 homeless men, women and children in the metropolitan area, more than 6,000 in DC proper.
That’s 14,000 men, women and children without shelter.
Homelessness can result from substance abuse, mental illness, family dysfunction or a myriad of other individual problems. A sudden job loss or domestic violence can also push a family out of their existing housing.
Another factor contributing to the growing number of homeless individuals and families in Washington is the skyrocketing cost of housing. According to the “Washington Post,” “district home prices have risen so rapidly that more than 80 percent of the properties for sale last year were financially out of reach for the average city household.”
Rents, too, have risen sharply, partly as a result of the dwindling supply of units. The Fannie Mae Foundation reports that “a substantial number of rental properties that have long provided shelter for low- and moderate-income residents are being sold to new investors, renovated as luxury housing or converted to condominiums.”
- http://www.cihn.org/dc_homeless_stats/
i hope that the next time you decide to be generous and help a person out, you can lose some of the judging. if you’re going to complain about a persons response without knowing their situation, it sorta takes the selflessness out of the act.
October 6, 2008 at 2:34 pmthis weekend - a dude outside the ledroit park market (who smelled like five bottles of jack) asked me for some money to get something to eat and i handed him all of my change (like a dollar seventy-five) and he said, “NO, NO. enough to get something to eat!” and he went on to tell me that he saw the money i had put back in my wallet in the store and pointed towards my pants. i promptly told him to eat a dick and almost asked for my change back. as if he knew my financial situation and how much money i could (and should) spare. some (enabling) people are way too nice.
just wanted to share my story, but i kept some of it for myself.
eddie - couldn’t you have just walked away at that point. you didn’t have to be a dick. and instead of giving him money, you could have bought him some food. i think that if you don’t want to help the homeless then you shouldn’t. but if you are willing to help, then you can’t be an asshole about it.
October 6, 2008 at 2:40 pmAgreed; with “m” and “really?”. This article makes me sad. It comes across as selfish, spoiled, condescending and ignorant.
October 6, 2008 at 2:43 pmjust because someone is hanging out near mcDs doesn’t make them homeless. sometimes it just feels good to get a little attention, and if you can get a free drink and a free cigarette then that’s good too. AM I RIGHT LADIES!!!!
October 6, 2008 at 2:47 pmlizcrow- AMEN!
October 6, 2008 at 2:48 pmliz, you are hilarious
October 6, 2008 at 2:51 pmyou don’t have to treat the issue of poverty/homelessness in DC with kid gloves, like by using faux-PC jargon à la “domestically challenged.” it’s even okay to admit that your experience is informed by “movies and TV” before typing up your anecdote and critiquing the behavior of another human being.
but i would highly recommend taking off the “entitled idiot” gloves next time you think about posting about anything remotely political, socio-economic, or involving personal ethics beyond the level of a 4th grader on their first field trip into the Big Bad City.
October 6, 2008 at 3:05 pmI don’t think this article is selfish, spoiled, condescending or ignorant. If I gave money/food to everyone that asked me on the sidewalks of DC (Greenpeace, Care, Unicef, homeless people) - I wouldn’t have anything left.
It’s bad manners to look a gift horse in the mouth. Just like you mother used to say (about the hideous christmas present your great grandmother gave you) - say thank you and smile.
I also think that if they ask for something specific, then we should try to oblige.
October 6, 2008 at 3:20 pmhey guess what homeless people can be dicks, just like people with homes. No need to get all copy-paste on this shit. Also, “liz” is not hilarious.
October 6, 2008 at 3:21 pm“Yo, pennies is money too…”
-YSL to the panhandling community at large
October 6, 2008 at 3:23 pmI give away more cigarettes and change and dollars to homeless than anyone I know (and I’ve also volunteered at Martha’s Table serving the homeless so anyone who wants to bitch at me can go eat some homeless people doo doo out of Meridian Hill park (and there’s a lot of it, it’s like THE place for the homeless to go poo) but I’ll add that if someone asks me for something, and I give what I can (or want) to them, they don’t get to ask for more, nor do I have to feel sympathetic if they say “hey asshole, how about 2 cigarettes?”
In fact I should get to have whatever I gave them back. Be gracious and thankful, and that goes for anything. Someone wishes you happy birthday rather than buying you a 6-pack? Be thankful.
Oh and the “got a dime, mister?” jerk can try to remember that when I walked up the block and gave him a dollar I’m the same guy who he sees two minutes later. Try not acting like you don’t realized I just gave you a buck. I know you don’t all look alike.
I also wonder why when “homeless” people ask for change it’s pathetic. When “greenpeace” aggressively jumps in my path and asks for $25 per year it’s a bullet on their college resume?
October 6, 2008 at 3:31 pm@wow -
“eddie - couldn’t you have just walked away at that point. you didn’t have to be a dick. ”
i did walk away, and no, i wasn’t a dick. he was. some of you enabling fucking retards want to hand the world to every loser drunk that calls themselves homeless.
i know there are certainly homeless people in need and not the ones who take every bit of change/whatever they get from people and spend it on booze. i think they need help and it is good there are shelters for them and volunteers and charities, etc.
but don’t give me shit for telling a guy that is stinking of alcohol and telling me how much i should give him (after i already gave him money i shouldn’t have) what i think of his actions. and you telling me i should have bought him a meal? eat a dick, wow. your bleeding heart should be saved for people REALLY in need and you shouldn’t be wasting your energy scolding me for telling a drunk a block from my house and badgering me to give him more “because he saw i had more” what i thought of his bullshit. anyone who is saying “oh, that is horrible the way you treated that guy!” is an enabling idiot. people in need do not equal drunk pestering losers. next time you think about giving me shit for that, go punch yourself in the face.
love,
eddie
mostly what i see in these comments is anonymous condescending idiocy, very similar to the their claimed condescending foolishness of the posted article
when people see something that pluck’s their heartstrings, its pretty common for knee-jerk reactions - thats what i see here
October 6, 2008 at 3:44 pmI think the author’s main problem in this article was mistakenly identifying a person as “homeless” when clearly what they were dealing with was a bonefide HOBO. A homeless person is just a person without a home…a HOBO is a dirty traitorous malingerer who conspires to steal our pies, stone our dogs, and overthrow our government. A pox on the whole surreptitious brotherhood!
October 6, 2008 at 3:49 pmok, THAT was funny
October 6, 2008 at 3:50 pmI volunteer at the Mitch Snyder place on 2nd and D a couple of times a week. took about a minute and a half for me to grow to hate 95% of the people there. And that’s because homeless are exactly like the homed, except their living conditions are a lot closer to jail and their desperation is gape-ass wide open for everyone to see. Maybe that makes them more honest and therefore way more dickish. this applies only to the good people I deals wif at the Mitch Snyder place.
October 6, 2008 at 3:58 pm“N” - that was an incredible contribution to this discussion.
October 6, 2008 at 3:58 pmWhen there are people that are actually in need…I give them what I can. I’m not exactly made of money and sure…I could see that they get frustrated with their lot in life. Why the hell wouldn’t they? But that doesn’t mean I can’t complain when they are just flat out rude to me. There is a guy at the 7-11 on 11th street that ALWAYS opens the door for me and asks for some change on my way out and I ALWAYS give him whatever I can spare. Even when my funds are pretty damn low. He doesn’t get mad if I don’t give him two dollars. And you know…I bet he gets a lot more money than the hobos that yell at people when they don’t get as much as they’d like.
I don’t think it’s difficult to get disenchanted with giving money to hobos/homeless people when, time after time, you see the same ones high off their ass or belligerent and getting slammed to the sidewalk by the cops. Or when you offer to buy them food and they refuse…why would they refuse you buying them a 5 dollar meal in favor of a dollar?
It’s a touchy subject, I’ll admit. But it’s not insensitive to bring these matters up. I think it opens up for debate an issue that doesn’t often get very much coverage.
October 6, 2008 at 4:37 pmS.Fitsum, I think what you said makes lot of sense.
I’ve NEVER encountered someone begging that has good manners, in any city. That said, It seems sort of ridiculous to have that expectation. A lot of these people are mentally ill, have drug problems or are just plain desperate. If you choose to be generous and help them out with a meal I really don’t think you can expect the sort of reaction you seem to be hoping for.
And.. Eddie– I get what you are saying but really, what did you expect from a desperate, apparently homeless person that “smelled like five bottles of jack”?
October 6, 2008 at 4:40 pmN.,
You hit it on the head in my case. I thought this article was obnoxious and uninformed…so I made an obnoxious joke, thinking someone might read, see and understand my jerking knee. Way to solidify, homes.
-YSL
P.S. I’m not anonymous…I just never comment
October 6, 2008 at 4:40 pm@sara - i didn’t expect anything except for him to take the money i had given to him. i’m not sure what your point is.
October 6, 2008 at 5:15 pmI’m going to have to echo Sara in that it seems like the author of this article doesn’t have a true sense on who it is that populates our streets and the situations that continue to contribute to the increasingly large DC homeless population.
While it’s easy to sound self-righteous arguing these types of points, it’s pretty disheartening to see how flip and ironic people feel the need to be when it comes to an issue as serious as this. The idea that there should be some kind of quid pro quo (you giving money, the homeless fulfilling you with the self-satisfaction of doing something good) during these kinds of interactions completely undermines the direness of the individual’s circumstances while articulating just how shallow your intent was. Wow, you gave someone your 75 cents?! Could a Nobel prize be next? This is nothing more than an issue of entitlement. “He doesn’t want my sandwich! But I was being so generous by offering him/her something!”
This type of interaction doesn’t offer the positive self image that one feels that they deserve by giving money to a homeless person. Just by volunteering or giving money doesn’t mean that there isn’t a condescention present; it can also be manifested in a hegemonic worldview or inflated self-concept.
i am offended and mystified by this article. is it supposed to be funny? witty? perceptive or thought-provoking? at least for me, it was none of these things.
a lot of the articles on here are snide or cynical or snarky or whatever. fine. many of these are also smart and funny or, if not, at least they put forth a clear opinion. if the article makes you think or laugh or see things in a new light then, great, be a dick. at least you’re being a creative dick. i found this article to be nothing but mean and condescending.
and, honestly, i am not easily offended. i am a dick myself. and i think i can count the total times i’ve ever commented on an internet post on one hand. so there you go.
October 6, 2008 at 5:21 pmLet’s say you just bought your significant other a birthday present. That person turns to you and says “I really wanted something different, can you get me something different instead?”
Would you make the same commentary to someone who just related the above to you? Of course not. You’d agree. You’d say “What a bitch!” or “what an asshole, you should dump him.” DTMFA, right?
But because it’s the “homeless” and you get the same reaction it’s suddenly being insensitive. Get real. They’re human beings. They don’t get a free pass because they are assholes. An asshole is an asshole is an asshole. Don’t want the fifty cents or the Egg McMuffin? Fine. Give it back so I can give it to someone who appreciates it.
October 6, 2008 at 5:39 pmWell put Michael.
October 6, 2008 at 5:45 pmbeggars can’t be choosers. but if i was in a situation where they asked for food instead of money i would ask if they had a preference. i mean the number five really isn’t going to cost much more than the six. but if they get upset about the amount of money i give them, i just keep on walking. well i used to, i just don’t do it anymore because that started happening. that and i would much rather give them food than feed any sort of addiction, but that’s probably me being self-righteous and judgemental.
October 6, 2008 at 5:53 pm@m -
this is getting ridiculous. nobody was asking for a pat on the back or claiming that they did something great. what it boils down to is this:
there are people who are truly in need of help and their situations are not self-imposed. those people deserve help and you shouldn’t help them just to make yourself feel good about what you’ve done. you should help them if you are able to because it is the right thing to do and you should not expect a thing in return.
conversely, there are people who are desperate because of their own actions (drugs, alcohol, pure laziness, *whatever*) and instead of getting help and trying to do something that would help themselves in the long-run, they just become dependent on people giving them money to perpetuate their self-imposed situation. these people generally try to pass off their situation as helpless and homeless. these people suck. unfortunately, people like you, “m”, can’t tell the difference. yes, this is a touchy subject, but my point is this: it sucks that there are people like the latter-described out there because there are people who are genuinely in need and they all get lumped in the same category.
if you give something, don’t expect a great, big thank you. if you receive something, don’t act like people owe you more (applies mostly to the latter group, but meant for all).
m, who “populates our streets”? are there people out there of whom we aren’t aware?? tell us! who?
and tell us the exact “situations that continue to contribute to the increasingly large DC homeless population” since you’re implying that you know…
October 6, 2008 at 6:00 pmmichael,
it is not fair that you always come up with these simple and effective analogies saying exactly what i wanted to say (yet couldn’t come up with), but better. shut up.
does this website have ANY quality control? This “article” is a new low for BYT. WTF? Call the waaaaambulance, lgildner didn’t get great praise for his/her generosity. Sounds like, to me, lgildner’s motives were 100% self serving. Give to help, not to feel good about yourself.
Domestically challenged??? You are an ass.
October 6, 2008 at 7:18 pmAwwww! I wanted the 40oz Mickeys not Colt 45! mbufuckinbyaachusucker
October 6, 2008 at 7:43 pmWHOA! - You have to have a sense of humor about this issue. I work at a homeless shelter and the only thing that keeps you from completely losing hope when someone tries to abuse the system is to be able to laugh at the ridiculousness. Someone who is truly and desperately destitute is NOT going to ask you to buy barbeque fritos at the 7-11 on 8th Street SE (really…). To be honest, you could offer many homeless in the street information on a million and one resources available in the city to help them back on their feet and they will spit, snarl and get angry with you…much of this is INDEED mental illness and/or social isolation…but that doesn’t mean that you should get depressed or even put yourself in a dangerous situation. All of us want to be benevolent people, and while a meal for a homeless person is an incredibly nice thing to offer, you are better off letting them know where the nearest soup kitchen or faith community is…so that they are exposed to the WIDE variety of services available that may actually provide them with long-term help.
Life is sucky most of the time…you gotta lighten up, people.
October 6, 2008 at 7:48 pmeddie,
let’s face the most important issue: this “article” was a poorly written rant. I hesitate to use rant because traditionally it has connotations of passion or a thesis behind it which as I can tell, this article does not. It read to me (and from the general tone of these comments) like a pithy attempt at edgy social commentary or humor. Even if you agreed with the sentiment of the article, did you really believe it was any good?
As someone who has contributed to BYT, I feel as though I am a stakeholder in maintaining some kind of quality control here. All of this back and forth allows us to lose sight of the main problem: this is a poorly written, uninformed article that makes the writing on this site seem sophmoric. Look, I understand this isn’t exactly the New York Times but c’mon!
But to directly address your accusations, I don’t think I need to tell you that a great deal of the individuals who panhandle suffer from a wide range of mental illnesses some of which that get worse from years of life on the street, schizophrenia and PTSD being two such examples. Due to their conditions it is extremely difficult to get them off the streets and most social programs lack the sufficient resources to adequately meet the demands of the complicated histories of these individuals.
The same five bucks you hand a bum can buy more meals if you donate it to a shelter. If bums knew they could only find handouts at the shelters just maybe they would start receiving the addiction, counseling, training and support they need to cure the real problems behind their homelessness.
If someone asks you for money, give them the address of the nearest shelter or the one you donate to.
http://www.dccentralkitchen.org
http://www.dcpages.com/Community/Shelters_and_Soup_Kitchens/
Buying copies of Street Sense from homeless/poor vendors is also a good way to help. When’s the last time you picked up a copy? The next time you see a vendor, drop $1 and stop and talk awhile. Try thinking about the person instead of making yourself feel better. It could open your eyes.
October 7, 2008 at 10:19 amdisenfranchised - many “bums” can’t stand shelters and refuse to go. Some will go out of necessity (extra long cold snap) and others would rather die than go to one. You don’t exist on the street for long without knowing where the food can be found so telling a homeless person where to find food for free is wasting breath. They know. They just don’t want the intrusion into their lives that visiting a shelter brings. That’s why places like Martha’s Table delivers food in a van to different areas of the city - the bums can come get a free meal without having to go to an actual shelter and get a good talking to by a do-gooder.
October 7, 2008 at 10:26 amwhatsoever ye do unto the least of these
that you do unto me
_Jesus Christ, the Most Famous Homeless Man in History
you think dc is bad please take a stroll down to va’s long forgotten capital of richmond va. Here you have the sworn privaledge to be badgered by these street monsters 24-7. In richmond the homeless not only rape you for money they rape you for 40’s, cocaine, blow jobs and honey buns. I’ve adapted well to these creatures with swift “get the fuck out of my face’s” or a quick truffle shuffle to the left sidestepping any diseases that may become airborne during a brief encounter of verbose that sounds more like a stray dog yelping for help after trampled by a steam roller. Homeless people are not a problem, but more of an epidemic that needs cleansing. Round em up and send them to canada. I hear they have a great healthcare system in place
October 7, 2008 at 10:55 amMichael,
Are you seriously arguing against donating to places like central kitchen? Bums don’t just need food. I frankly don’t care if getting a bum off the street requires the “intrusion” of someone trying to get them the help they really need.
October 7, 2008 at 11:57 amOK… First of all Pedro is funny. The rest of you are not.
The article was meant to be funny. Get a sense of humor and just take it at face value. It is a humors take on this self-absorbed city and our sometimes humorous homeless.
No one can talk until you’ve been chased by the angry man at 19th and M NW
DV - the only thing I really argue against is a lack of reading comprehension, which is being exhibited in spades.
I stated that telling a bum where to go and find food rather than giving them food or money is wasting breath - they already know where the free food is and they don’t want to go. They want some semblence of still being in charge of their own station in life and that’s what a lot of do-gooders don’t get. You all think they’re retarded puppies who need your superior guidance and wisdom as though they don’t KNOW they should get a job or as though they don’t know where they can find food and counseling.
They don’t want it and most do-gooders need to get that through their thick skulls. You aren’t saviors bringing enlightenment to idiots. Yes many are mentally ill and many have substance abuse problems. Some of them, though, have just given the fuck up on whatever it is that makes people think that a house and car and job is important and don’t give a shit about any of it.
Never in any of my statement did I argue against donating time or money to a homeless shelter or food kitchen. Give all your money to them if you wish. I simply stated that telling a homeless person where the free food is is a waste of breath.
October 7, 2008 at 12:24 pmWith all due respect Michelle, the homeless problem is just that: a problem. Not only does it take away from the the aesthetic beauty of our city it is also an affront to God. How can DC truly be a shining city on The Hill when there are so many people not holding down respectable jobs or maintaining viable places of habitation?
Obviously this is a rhetorical question.
Perhaps a policy of “live and let live” or “compassion” works well in New York or San Francisco, but as a place of higher moral values, DC must come up with a solution once and for all.
people keep saying that this article is supposed to be funny. well, if this is in fact an “article” and byt is trying to be some sort of an online “magazine” then perhaps the next “interns” they get should be writers and editors. the comments seem as though they started because this is a very poorly written piece with no real point and comes off as extremely condescending and whiny, especially because it is addressing a very real problem in DC.
October 7, 2008 at 12:58 pmWhy is homelessness a “problem” by the way? Because people don’t like seeing it? Ever think some people just don’t care about holding down a job, or a mortgage? Or going to a gay-ass wine bar? Granted some people truly -are- homeless and want to get out of it, but others just don’t give a shit. You people (You people?) would know this if you spent any time talking to them.
If I weren’t such a Nancy with regards to having to have a shower every day I’d be homeless. It would take me back to my roots as a hunter gatherer, rather than swallowing the shit sandwich that is an 8+ hour work day. That’s progress?
October 7, 2008 at 1:17 pmHaven’t you people ever heard of a little thing called HUMOR?!?
CLEARLY…this article was written to provoke thoughts and arguments so obviously it was successful!
Congrats Lauren G…another job well done! Can’t wait until your next “sad, selfish, spoiled, and condescending” article ;)
October 7, 2008 at 1:34 pmMichael, are you serious? You think people chose to be poor and homeless? Do you also think poor people are happy when you see them smiling? This is the most ignorant statement I have so far read from you. Just because some people give up hope and arrange themselves with the situation, doesn’t mean that they “chose” to be poor.
October 7, 2008 at 1:50 pmIt seems the DC council has also been having a civil discussion regarding homelessness.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dc/2008/10/expletives_over_easy.html
October 7, 2008 at 1:50 pmanyone remember the dude that used to mimic different languages around the 15th St. area like 10 years ago or so? he was the coolest homeless guy i have ever come accross in DC or anywhere else.
i remember one encounter in particular where we were coming out of a 2Tuff party (all banged up) and this guy was like “pick a country, any country”…. so i said germany - he proceeded to say a few sentences in what sounded just like german…. we then went through about 5 other countries (china, brazil, france, sweden and one other i don’t remember) and he replied each time we named a different country with a response that was nothing short of stunning. we ended up giving him like $25 between 6 of us.
i love it when homeless people come up with creative ways of asking for money! but i usually end up giving something to them anyway if i have anything.
October 7, 2008 at 1:52 pmnihilistic - yes, people do choose to be “poor” (I put it in quotes because typically for people like this it is YOUR standard that makes them poor, and not theirs) and homeless because of a variety of reasons. Again - you’d know as much if you bothered to talk to them.
There are people - gasp - who choose to live in home-built shelters in the middle of nowhwere without electricity and do all their hunting for food. Gasp.
October 7, 2008 at 2:39 pmgraham - sounds like the black savant guy (or whatever he calls himself) who says “pick a country, any country” and then proceeds to tell you something about it - whether a short history, a war they fought in, their chief export, or something.
It’s kind of psychological because when people are put on the spot like that they don’t think too well and come up with Comoros or Lesotho, so as long as you remember a handful of major countries you can pretty much fake your way through it.
Next time you see him throw Kiribati at him.
October 7, 2008 at 2:44 pm“Haven’t you people ever heard of a little thing called HUMOR?!?
CLEARLY…this article was written to provoke thoughts and arguments so obviously it was successful!
Congrats Lauren G…another job well done! Can’t wait until your next “sad, selfish, spoiled, and condescending” article ;)”
horribly mistaken. lauren g., you should be embarrassed. if this was meant to be humorous, you’re way off. not a good writer. but then, when has byt really cared about the quality of the people that work for them for free?
October 7, 2008 at 2:52 pm“There are people - gasp - who choose to live in home-built shelters in the middle of nowhwere without electricity and do all their hunting for food. Gasp.”
You are talking about hippies.
You have to re-think your definition of poverty. Poverty means absence of choice and absence of personal freedoms; if you “chose” to be poor than you aren’t because you have the choice to reverse your situation. You also don’t consider people unemployed if they chose to be job-less.
Choice and freedom is what makes the difference between rich and poor. In this respect, I actually found the blog and some of the reactions interesting.
October 7, 2008 at 3:26 pm*then* not *than*. sorry
October 7, 2008 at 3:27 pmThe Glass Castle by Jeannette Walls pretty much describes a situation that proves Michael’s point. Highly recommended.
October 7, 2008 at 4:19 pmCale - and that dude who built a house by hand in the wilds of Alaska. You can buy the DVD of it everytime PBS runs one of their “give us money-a-thons.” It’s really fucking cool though.
And no, nihilistic, I was not talking about hippies. I’m talking about anyone who chooses to live off the grid. The rest of your post didn’t make any sense because you’re trying to argue semantics.
But I’m glad you see that all it takes to be rich is choice. /sarcasm.
October 7, 2008 at 5:33 pmIt’s called Alone in The Wildreness and it’s worth owning. Although the packaging is fully bootleg. Anyway it’s mesmerizing how he just up and decides he needs kitchen utensils, so he goes out and makes a bowl and a cutting board and all this other shit in a matter of hours. You can do all that when you’re straight edge and built like a small rhino
October 7, 2008 at 5:41 pmmy uncle was homeless for awhile. he chose to be. he hitch hiked from north carolina and lived in alexandria for almost a year. he had his social security checks sent to my house and my mom would cash them for him and take him the money. he never asked anyone else for money, and he didn’t push around a cart. he really didn’t look homeless. he spent all his time watching and writing. he used to be a professor at east carolina university and was a journalist for awhile. he lives in leesberg now and works with the local homeless shelter and has an online business.
October 7, 2008 at 5:47 pm“But I’m glad you see that all it takes to be rich is choice. /sarcasm”
Michael, you need to work on what you advise other people to do: reading comprehension. Being rich is not a choice but it means that you have them. Plenty.
October 8, 2008 at 3:12 pmSorry, np, but I’m not sure anyone can comprehend what you’re trying to say.
October 8, 2008 at 3:19 pmLet’s get back to the main point at hand: I am funny, and hobos are going to rise up and kill us all.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/merlin/315251470/
BEWARE
October 8, 2008 at 3:43 pm



I have homeless men ask me for cigarettes all the time and quite often I oblige if I have a surplus.
One time I was walking down 17th past that Safeway in Dupont and a man asked me for a cigarette. I was smoking my last one and told him so (even apologizing that I didn’t have an extra to give him!) and he replied “then gimme that one!” I almost died!
October 6, 2008 at 2:22 pm