Do I detect a halfsmile on Grace?

Well the girl did get an ovation …
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sexyfitsum/1571225243/

I hate to be the one to do this because I love BYT…but I don’t love the idea of putting girls up naked on the site. I often find Sexy Fitsum’s photos exploitative and creepy. This is a new low for him, in my humble opinion.

No, your photos aren’t that bad. Hey, if people want to be photographed naked and you want to take the pictures, fine. But I just think it makes for less of a good time to have to worry about photographers that I don’t really trust (Joel, okay, but…) hanging around photographing girls. I don’t know the situation involved in that photo above…but I’ve been 22 and sweating and drunk and felt like undressing in clubs. And I certainly would have been mortified to find it on BYT on Monday morning. And I don’t want to have to start signing photo waivers every time I go to the Cat…wait times are long enough already. Also, if Dante or Jim Graham see this, we’re all f*cked.

Oh… so it’s cool if Joel exploits your ass. I get it now …

Let alone the shots of the girl above, you don’t have even the slightest clue as to contexts in which I shoot. You should worry more about your personal behavior - eg. getting drunk and stripping at 22 - than signing waivers, or the guy who took the shot that reminded you come Monday AM of what a dumbass you were. Btw, did Cale’s pic of Michael squeezing his wad offend you also? Probably not.

Also, I really couldn’t give a rat’s puckered ass whether you think my photos are quality or not.

I’m curious what other people think. It’s obvious that - as always with my exploitative pix - BYT folks made a concious decision to post them. I’d just like to hear from some other people who haven’t made up their minds about me and how I do without the benefit of half a clue.

I heart Svetlana.

I am also for more people climbing on public stages and taking off their tops and most of their underthings, but that’s much more an NYC thing to do and this certainly isn’t NYC.

I had my enormous ding-ding out at this very bar once on a dare, but there were no photographers about, so you’ll just have to trust it is an enormous ding-ding.

Er, make that twice.

Hmmm…SF, your email above is a bit hard to follow, but I’ll try.

“You don’t have a clue as to contexts in which I shoot” - Ummm, yes I do. I’ve been to a lot of the parties / shows, etc. that you’ve photographed.

“You should worry more about your personal behavior - eg. getting drunk and stripping at 22″ - I’ve never stripped in a club. I only said I felt like it. And I’m not judging anyone who does it because I think it would be a very easy thing to do in a hot moment.

“or the guy who took the shot that reminded you come Monday AM of what a dumbass you were” - okay, that’s all I really needed. You’re calling that girl a “dumbass” which isn’t very respectful of the subject matter that’s getting all the attention for you today. It’s exploitative and mean - that’s my opinion. You don’t have to like it - but the fact that you’re calling her that and you’re the one that took the picture is pretty low.

“BYT folks made a concious decision to post them” - Agreed, they certainly did. And that’s fine - but its also fine for me to say I don’t like it.

“people who haven’t made up their minds about me and how I do without the benefit of half a clue” - again, I’ve seen your photos here - I’ve seen you out and interacting with people at events. I’m really not sure what else I need to know. I made a comment on your photos - and clearly, I’ve seen your photos.

As for Joel, yeah, I let him take my picture when he’s around. He’s a nice guy and a great photographer.

mmm, Michael’s pinstriped wad
with vest overlay
had to say it

these comments invite a strip-tease off
would have made a good contest at underwear party

I wasn’t referring to the woman I shot as a dumbass. But you’re pretty happy to jump to conclusions. It doesn’t do me or any subject any bit of good to make them look like assholes. So I don’t. And in this case, I felt the girl made a concious decision to respond to me shooting her. That’s right: she wasn’t dancing like that until I pointed my camera toward her. So I made a concious decision shoot her and share the joy. That’s what I meant about you being clueless of the context.
You made up your mind about what was what, and that’s what I have a problem with.

Exploitation is exploitation whether by friend or Sexy Fitsum.

regarding Joel: trust me, I’ve heard “Don’t be a Joel” and “Well, at least you’re not like that dude Joel” way more often than “he’s a nice guy and a great photographer” It wouldnt be on blast if it werent true. Quit frankly Joel shoulldnt give a shit what people say bc there’s always some crybaby or two who feels the need to make free speech look like a bad idea.

woah…
how did I get all mixed up in this?

i second “baby factory exit”
great name for a band
or a record label
there i go with trademarks again

Lily - you can use it too if I can name my band “Michael’s pinstriped wad”

How the hell did i miss the naked girl?!? Was i too busy panicking over the computer screen? Jeesus… I just hope she has no regrets, and I thank Dio that my friends make me keep me clothes on (or put them back on). Remember, this was just supposed to be a silly, trashy, fist in the air, rockfest. And rocknroll is supposed to be sexy! W.W.A.W.K.D.?

By Taylor:
“I don’t know the situation involved in that photo above…but I’ve been 22 and sweating and drunk and felt like undressing in clubs. And I certainly would have been mortified to find it on BYT on Monday morning.”

That girl was looking for dick. I arrived around 11, shortly before she walked up stairs. She sauntered around and continually looked like an all around hooker. I’m not joking when I’m saying I’ve only seen a girl who had a more “I want a dick in my vagina” look at a bar once in my life, a few weeks ago downstairs at Crap.

I wonder which guy/girl/tranny got drunk enough to go home with her. I feel sorry for them…

you have my express permission to use the name
as long as i get free tickets and backstage access to any and all of your shows, for life

OMG! Like the same thing TOTALLY happened at Smith Point on Saturday! It’s all over the LNS forums — like, I bet it was the same girl! Was she wearing Lacoste undies?

(I really hope HTML comments work.)

Oh…and I second Nate and Michaels comments. That said unless there was a big sign that said, “Photography will be used at this event” or some such thing you might be in a perilous legal area by posting them without explicit permission.

Photographers can publish almost any photos they take - provided they don’t violate the privacy of an individual (or use them commercially without consent). The girl flashing the photographer had no reasonable expectation of privacy - and the Black Cat allows photographers to be there - so consent is implied.

http://www.kantor.com/blog/Legal-Rights-of-Photographers.pdf

The girl upstairs at mouse trap was FAR more scandalous anyways. She didn’t show her boobies/vagina/ass but that girl was semi-dry humping anything that had a heart beat…..and maybe some stuff that didn’t.

Pat Jarrett is baller.

i’ve been photographed fullsmile halfnaked and this is a “take my photo” maneuver. it isn’t some tara reid omg my dress fell off or i’m so drunk i’m letting my clothes go, she’s definitely holding her dress up in search of fcking on the dance floor. hollys right there’s no expectation of a photographer taking her photo and keeping it under his bed for happy times
and Fits I agree Nikola has a handle for getting the party naked

Jesus - is this what happens at the first Evil Disco I don’t attend in (literally) 9 months? Goddammit.

seriously? gimme a break, i doubt the real BC has time to post comments on BYT, let alone bulletins from their myspace page, will the real BC please stand up? or show proof that they’re for real?

the next Crap, Evil Disco, Right Round, Sheebop, Bliss, Metapop, or other packed DJ dance party night, everyone should flash their boobies and other private regions and see if BC kicks us out

asshat

If am man flashed his dick there would not be pictures of his penis on this website.

hahahahahahahahahahahaaha, that was the best comment stream I’ve read in a while, and wow possibly the worst boobs I’ve ever seen outside of that bad porno* your friend gives you when you’re thirteen and says check out these knockers. I’m glad mousetrap got free early, or that I was outside at that point of the night… mousetrap was almost good again for once, must be all the rowdy boiling back up to the top. Evil Disco is always a pleasure, and as always more danzig, and murder city devils please, because you can never have enough.

*Probably titled: Areola Borealis III the search for Spunk.

are both old creepballs. neither of them are terribly talented. it’s not difficult to point and shoot photos that aren’t flattering. i could do the same thing with my canon powershot a520. where are the female party photographers at?

Where are the female party photographers at? I DON’T KNOW. GRAB A CAMERA, HALFWIT. Stop trying to create yet ANOTHER argument out of this thread.

i am offended by all of this. seriously. from the the drunk girl showing her boobs, to the people in this thread calling her a whore. to be honest, she looks more like a walking cry for help. how is that hot? she looks WASTED.

also, i am offended that the black cat - specifically dance parties at the black cat - have turned into such an “amateur hour” scene. yuck.

as far as legality is concerned, consent written or expressed in a public space is not required, unless the subject has not reached the age of majority, which she most definitely has.

It is an extra-legal situation, governed only by the lessons your mommy and daddy taught you. Is it nice to take naked pictures of distressed looking intoxicated girls? Cuz my momma always taught me it’s not.

everyone does stupid shit, especially under the influence of alcohol, especially in combination with other “things.” And it’s true that by drinking and flashing in front of a camera she takes on the risk of having someone post it on the internet. We all know the possible damage that can cause. it may be that this girl doesn’t care, but was that known or expressed by the respective parties at the time? So it’s not enough to say she was asking for whatever happens - nobody does. taking the picture wasn’t absolutely evil, not even close, but it’s def not in any moral no man’s land.

Agreed, SF.

Also does anyone know if she was drunk? Or are we all just assuming that if you show your tits in public you must be?

you are all pathetic, with the exception of the ugly girl with the bologna tits and flabby ass.

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First of all titties are great. I hope that girl comes back naked next time and people take more pictures.

I’m also going to spray her with beer so she’s wet too.